@ivan @mayel
This possiblity of a "visible only inside the instance" group may be quite useful for community work and coordination.
It will also put Bonfire in league with any channel based chat (CBC) but with a richer and more powerful feature set. 😉
Do you believe it may be a desirable use case? I can think of a few classic examples in our own case (an intentional semi rural community) and many others... 😁
At present, our discussion page lacks any statistical data about the thread, a feature that is pretty common in most of social networks or forums. These platforms typically display a total count of replies, boosts, likes, and participants.
Take Discourse as an example, a platform with a great UX for productive conversations. Discourse displays the list of links shared in a post and provides a statistical box that details thread engagement. This includes also an approximation of the time required to read through the entire thread, if significant.
What are some meaningful statistics we must/should incorporate for the Bonfire 1.0 release? We are seeking to find statistics that can effectively foster engagement in discussions without solely promoting addictive behaviors. Any thoughts or suggestions ? #bonifre_feedback
I encountered this issue while using Bonfire:
After creating an account, clicked on the x on the "Hey Jon P, nice to meet you" to dismiss it, and immediately got a "Sorry the app encoutered an unexpected error" message.
I'm on Firefox 114.0.1, on a Mac, running PrivacyBadger and uBlockOrigin
@BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
@jdp23 fixed as well, thanks for the reports!
Also after I make a post, the "Posted" popup doesn't go away of its own accord and there's no obvious want to dismiss it (other than clicking on Show, which isn't what I want to do).
@jdp23 You should now be able to close these
And one more, @BonfireBuilders #BonfireFeedback:
I got an error trying to add alt text to the above images.
Sorry, the function do_handle_event/3 in module Elixir.Bonfire.UI.Common.ReusableModalLive didn't receive the data it was expecting
@jdp23 That bug is now fixed 😊
So I tested ActivityPub federation with a blog post I made (https://océane.fr/la-maltraitance-numérique) and I got this error message:
> found duplicate ID "open_preview-" for component Bonfire.UI.Common.OpenModalLive when rendering template
(with the “this is fine” gif page).
@Oceane That bug is now fixed (but please note that federation is currently disabled)
It's frustrating how late stage capitalism also ruins lots of cool apps, and I'm not talking of Twitter/Reddit, but simple things like Instabridge, which was a simple way to share and find the password of public WiFi hotspots (eg. from cafes). Now the app also tries to also be your mobile browser, your VPN, your home screen, etc, and shows you a video advert right after your contribute a password... 😶
oops this was supposed to be a new post, not a reply
It's frustrating how late stage capitalism also ruins lots of cool apps, and I'm not talking of Twitter/Reddit, but simple things like Instabridge, which was a simple way to share and find the password of public WiFi hotspots (eg. from cafes). Now the app also tries to also be your mobile browser, your VPN, your home screen, etc, and shows you a video advert right after your contribute a password... 😶
now that i think of it, can bonfire not follow mastodon on the ''like'' = star thing?lol
everytime i click on it i have years of star= favorite bookmark taught by internet in the brain
a bonfire is a fire sooooooooooooooo, maybe a fire reaction? no likes, only hyped fires 😁
@ivan @lefterino My first impression is that this is a good idea. Are there any expected/unexpected downsides to this?
@zabbeer @ivan @lefterino Yeah I think showing the number of comments (both in feeds and at the top of a discussion page) would be useful. Maybe better to not show the number of boosts/likes by default though, and either make that a setting you enable or a toggle/button/menu to explicitly choose when see them.
Join us in testing comments and discussions in #bonfire!
For the next 2 weeks, we're honing our focus on fixing and improving any aspect of this core feature, and we would love to do it together with our community. Let's collaboratively craft a space that fosters both lightearted banter and profound discussions.
Here's how to get involved:
1️⃣ Join the conversation by creating a new post or responding to existing ones.
2️⃣ Spot a bug or see room for improvement? Let us know! Post your valuable feedback and don't forget to tag it with #bonfire_feedback.
3️⃣ Your feedback doesn't go unnoticed. We'll gather all the reported issues in our tracker, focusing on the most critical ones in our current milestone: github.com/bonfire-networks/...
I encountered this issue while using Bonfire:
When clicking on the star to like a post, there is a popup saying "Not Found". After reloading the page, the post shows up as liked as expected.
@BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
Bonfire UX and features are great @mayel and team, thanks for your work! 🙏
Btw, is there a way to make pages load faster? Thanks! #bonfire_feedback
I posted this on my federated account but I'll report here. snowdin.town/notice/AWmsURDe...
I took a look at Bonfire recently and it looks promising. It has the idea of Circles which is one of my most desired features on fedi, so you can organize your followers into meaningful groups and make posts visible to them. There's two things that I'm struggling with there though.
One is terminology, the interface has a feed for 'Activities' and a feed for 'Posts', I don't know what those mean. Similarly the permissions system ('Roles') uses multiple terms that are hard for me to remember ('Read', 'Interact', 'Participate', 'Contribute'). The last three in particular all sound like they mean the same thing to me.
The other problem I'm having is that these permission roles are themselves adjustable. You can open up each one and toggle individual actions. That's a pretty cool idea from a customization perspective but it means that the labels themselves are now meaningless. That is, 'Interact' will mean different things to each user. Also, these permissions operate at different levels. 'Request', 'Follow', 'Mention', and 'Message' apply to users, but the rest apply to posts. So when I'm creating a post and I set the permissions to 'Participate' for a given Circle, am I giving users new permissions to interact with my account? Or am I controlling their permissions just on that post? The blending of these levels is really confusing to me.
I think it's a great idea to build more precise permissions around requests and follows, but I think that should probably be a separate section of the config. Post permissions should be relevant only to posts. I think it might also be nice if these default permission categories were not configurable, so that they meant the same thing to everyone on the network. Custom categories could be created by the user if they want more fine-tuned options.
All in all I'm still pretty impressed and glad that someone is thinking about these things. I like the frontend a lot.
@smitten just a correction: you cannot toggle the permissions on the default roles (interact, participate, etc) to customise them, you can only do so when you create custom roles.
Some updates about the development of federated #groups in bonfire:
indieweb.social/@bonfire/110...
Article: bonfirenetworks.org/posts/de...
(The federated group development has been made possible thanks to the #Nlnet Entrust grant)
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Apparently I can't follow this account from Mastodon, is that expected? It just stays stuck waiting for the follow to be accepted. #bonfire_feedback
@dragfyre Yes federation is currently disabled on this instance.
@bonfire@indieweb.social Love the new add to circles feature!
Just now, on a post by @ivan that @mayel had boosted, I noticed something unexpected and wanted to ask if it was intended.
What happened: I clicked on the three dots to interact with the post and my options were to ghost / silence, etc. @mayel
What I expected: my options being to ghost / silence, etc. @ivan
(I've just checked and that is the default behaviour on Mastodon and Calckey)
@dajb @ivan @bonfire@indieweb.social Ah good point! Think it would be useful to have both, or only the original author there?