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Test of posting to open circle
@pjf From what I've seen, there's overlap and there's some differences. Mastodon is a kind of software for making websites. Bonfire is also software for making websites. The plan for Bonfire is to work on adding some features that Mastodon doesn't have, like groups, which I'm in favor of. You can find more information on their fundraiser page: indiegogo.com/en/projects/bo...
@coyote Thank you.
For me, as a non-tech person, I find it tricky to see which kind of service would suit me best. But from what I can see and read, Bonfire looks like it's going to have what many people want. Will wait to see what happens.
@jrossstocholm
My understanding is that Circles are how you set the privacy levels or interaction permissions for individual posts, which is a different kind of feature from Facebook groups.
Anyone on here know how to make one of those link preview cards? I've seen posts on here that have them, but my own testing has proven unsuccessful.
Hi! After seeing a post on #Mastodon, I thought I'd make a profile here. At the moment, like others, I'm unsure how different this is to Mastodon, particularly as I'm not a tech person at all.
I realise that this isn't federated to Mastodon (yet?), but if it does, I imagine having a profile here and a profile on Mastodon would be redundant (?) – unless users want to have more than one profile, which I know many do (and I have more than one, too). And another thing, is there an app for this I can download for my phone?
@pjf From what I've seen, there's overlap and there's some differences. Mastodon is a kind of software for making websites. Bonfire is also software for making websites. The plan for Bonfire is to work on adding some features that Mastodon doesn't have, like groups, which I'm in favor of. You can find more information on their fundraiser page: indiegogo.com/en/projects/bo...
Hi! After seeing a post on #Mastodon, I thought I'd make a profile here. At the moment, like others, I'm unsure how different this is to Mastodon, particularly as I'm not a tech person at all.
I realise that this isn't federated to Mastodon (yet?), but if it does, I imagine having a profile here and a profile on Mastodon would be redundant (?) – unless users want to have more than one profile, which I know many do (and I have more than one, too). And another thing, is there an app for this I can download for my phone?
@Ianp5a @mayel @gilles @ivan isn't that what "Circles" on bonfire are supposed to do?
If we want ppl to move from #bigtech (and I belive that we want this) we need to provide an alternative - that is on-par with the most important parts of e.g., Facebook. One of those important parts is indeed "groups". If this is not present, noone will move.
Btw, I created a Circle - but cannot figure out how to post to that circle?
@jrossstocholm
My understanding is that Circles are how you set the privacy levels or interaction permissions for individual posts, which is a different kind of feature from Facebook groups.
Groups is what is missing from Mastodon. Real Groups that is. Where posts inside a group stay inside a group. You join or leave the group if you are not interested in that topic. Same as Matrix Rooms or Telgram groups. Currently Mastodon is just a stream of announcements and no real social connection. Individual threads are OK. But you'll never find that thread again after a few days.
Groups mean people can post in detail on that topic without woryying it'll bore their followers. People have multiple different topics that need not overlap.
Groups make a social connection. You'll get to know people.
@Ianp5a @mayel @gilles @ivan isn't that what "Circles" on bonfire are supposed to do?
If we want ppl to move from #bigtech (and I belive that we want this) we need to provide an alternative - that is on-par with the most important parts of e.g., Facebook. One of those important parts is indeed "groups". If this is not present, noone will move.
Btw, I created a Circle - but cannot figure out how to post to that circle?
Still looking for reasons
First post on #bonfire.
Circle created.
Question: I assume that Circles are for bonfire what groups is for Facebook. So, how does one post to a circle?
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Threads - Echt jetzt?
Die Frage für 2024 lautet nicht, ob Threads ein weiterer, zu bespielender Kanal ist, sondern wie Unternehmen und Institutionen in Zukunft grundsätzlich mit Social Media umgehen wollen.
Ganz abgesehen von der Mannigfaltigkeit der theoretisch zu bespielenden Marketing-Kanäle https://jess3.com/projects/brian-solis-conversation-prism-v5 und meiner persönlichen, stark ausgeprägten Skepsis gegenüber dem Meta-Konzern (Facebook, Instagram, Whats-App und Threads) halte ich die Fragestellung, ob Unternehmen und Institutionen nun auch Threads nutzen sollen, für zu kurz gegriffen.
#Threads? versus #X? Da gibt es keinen Unterschied und beide Konzerne sollten gemieden werden. Dass das nach eventuell 15 Jahren Betrieb für das eine oder andere Unternehmen schwer verdauliche Kost ist und dass die dort eingepflegten Inhalte und gepflegten Kontakte nur schwer bis gar nicht ersetzt werden können, ist der beste Beweis dafür, die Unternehmenskommunikation und das Produktmarketing zukünftig nicht mehr von einzelnen Plattformen abhängig zu machen. Die letzten Monate, eher Jahre - seit meinem kompletten Ausstieg bei #Meta in 2018 nachdem Skandal um #CambridgeAnalytica - höre ich immer wieder: "Ja, aber... nutzen doch alle" Reichweite, Followerzahl etc. Das es mit der vermeintlichen Reputation für die Meta-Plattformen ganz schnell zu Ende gehen kann, dürfte spätestens der Fall von X ehemals #Twitter gezeigt haben.
Gibt es aktuell noch wirklich ernstzunehmende Unternehmen beziehungsweise Marken, die X nutzen?
Bei Threads gibt es einen wesentlichen und neuen Aspekt, über den es selbstverständlich schon jetzt geteilte Meinungen gibt: Die Anbindung zum sogenannten Fediverse via dem ActivityPub-Protokoll wie zum Beispiel bei #Mastodon, #Pixelfed, #Pleroma, #Firefish etc. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
Das bedeutet für mich nicht, dass Threads ein Grund wäre zum Meta-Konzern zurückzukehren, aber es zeigt mir, dass das gesamte Fediverse inklusive der Optionen derartige Plattformen eigenständig im WWW zu betreiben - genau wie die eigene Website oder den eigenen Blog - mit den richtigen Schnittstellen und Protokollen auf lange Sicht die bessere Wahl für jedes Unternehmen und jede Marke sein dürfte.
q.e.d. - quod esset(!) demonstrandum - Was zu beweisen wäre, ich weiß ;-)
Edit: Eine kurze Ergänzung.
Mittlerweile (Juni 2025) sind Zeichenbeschränkungen innerhalb von #Threads und zahlreicher "alter" #SocialMedia Plattformen, aber auch bei den bekanntesten Vertreter:innen im Fediverse wie zum Beispiel #Mastodon für viele Interessenten ein größerer Nachteil; Unternehmen, Marken, Journalist:innen, Schriftsteller:innen. Verlage, öffentliche Institutionen, Privatpersonen ... suchen und benötigen oftmals mehr als 250 Zeichen zur Darstellung eines Sachverhalts oder zur Kommentierung und zur Diskussion von komplexen Themen, Dienstleistungen und Produkten - Und es wollen oder können eben nicht alle ihren eigene Website oder ihren eigenen Blog betreiben.
Der sogenannte "short form content" bzw. das "Micro-Blogging" mit ihrem im Schnitt auf maximal 500 Zeichen begrenzten Umfang und der "long form content" bzw. das "Macro-Blogging" welche prinzipiell eine unbegrenzte Anzahl von Zeichen erlauben, stehen sich dabei gegenüber. Technisch sind beide Varianten auf einer Plattform möglich und werden zum Beispiel bei #Nostr respektive bei #Primal oder #Yakihonne uvm. und bei neueren Vertretern im Fediverse wie #Bonfire angeboten. Ein ausführlicherer Beitrag über den Entwicklungsstand und meine persönlichen Testergebnisse zum Nostr-Netzwerk bzw. Nostr-Protokoll und zu Bonfire steht noch aus; TBC.
First published: 2024-01-19 18:00:00
Edit: 2025-07-03 12:00:00
Tags: MAMPATT, GAFAM, THREADS
Revisiting this site again after seeing [this post by Erin Kissane](https://www.wrecka.ge/sparks-fly-up). Same questions apply.
Alright not sure how to make my links appear correctly but it must be possible since I managed it last time.
Hello! First public post here. I have some questions and feedback about the project.
For reference, I'm someone who has never made an account on the Fediverse for a number of reasons -- one of which being that unfortunately a lot of the Fediverse is modeled off of Twitter, and what I look for in a website is more along the lines of Dreamwidth. What caught my eye about Bonfire is the rejection of venture capital, the interest in prosocial design, the ability to make long posts, and the circles feature, which sounds a lot like Dreamwidth's custom access filters.
So on that note, I'd like to ask about the points of reference and overall vision for Bonfire. It looks like Bonfire Social was modeled after Mastodon in some ways, and I'm curious about what other websites, software, or platforms you'd be willing to draw on for inspiration.
For instance...
1) Can you say more about the vision for the "groups" feature? I can't tell from the description if I should be picturing something like traditional forums or if it's something more like Reddit subreddits and Dreamwidth communities.
2) So far I can't tell if there's already a blacklist/filtering feature or plans to add one. I would hope so, given the emphasis on customization. To make blacklists more effective, I think it would make sense to give tags a separate text field, like on Tumblr and Pillowfort, since Twitter-style inline tags tend to lead people to tag less often (which makes blacklists less effective).
3) I would also be strongly interested in Bonfire adding more comment controls like the ones on Dreamwidth, Pillowfort, and Wordpress, which I think are an important prosocial measure and something sorely lacking on Mastodon. Is that something you'd be willing to add to your roadmap?
Revisiting this site again after seeing [this post by Erin Kissane](https://www.wrecka.ge/sparks-fly-up). Same questions apply.
Davvero è federato? Non riesco a trovarmi. /CC @tassoman@orwell.fun
@tassoman campground è un'istanza di test - non è federata, abbiamo deciso di non tirar su "l' instanza ufficiale di bonfire" perchè non reputiamo sia il modo corretto di promuovere la decentralizzazione.
Ok, how much images Can i post here ?
Davvero è federato? Non riesco a trovarmi. /CC @tassoman@orwell.fun
Great to see so much development @ivan !
I have a qustion for a specific use case (could also ask this somewhere else, but why not here):
Say, I set up a rather local-focused bonfire instance, for example, inviting all people from my small village to have an account. I would like to be able to:
1) Post my opinion about, say, synthesizers to be read by people from all known instances. (and of course let all villager post about whatever they find interesting)
2) Allow villagers to post stuff about our village that is only visible for people in the village. For example, I could invite people for helping organizing a cleanup day in the village hall. If I understand correctly, this would be done by setting the boundary to local on my village instance.
3) On my instance, I would like to offer all accounts a default custom feed that only shows local stuff (as posted under point 2). Most villagers don't care about my opinion about synthesizers, they just wanna see what's going on in the village. (so, that is different from the current default "local" feed)
I would really love it when this third option would be possible. The literal example given here would be a serious use case, but I can think of many more.
Groups is what is missing from Mastodon. Real Groups that is. Where posts inside a group stay inside a group. You join or leave the group if you are not interested in that topic. Same as Matrix Rooms or Telgram groups. Currently Mastodon is just a stream of announcements and no real social connection. Individual threads are OK. But you'll never find that thread again after a few days.
Groups mean people can post in detail on that topic without woryying it'll bore their followers. People have multiple different topics that need not overlap.
Groups make a social connection. You'll get to know people.
Hello i'm new. Exciting to try it out.
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@tassoman ririri
This is a bonfire demo instance for testing purposes