@ivan Ah, beautiful... with some decent speed in the exchange, this almost replaces IMs. 😊
I'd like to help with this please, when the time comes. 😊
Warm regards...
Eduardo Mercovich
@edumerco@campground.bonfire.cafe
Father of 2, husband of the sweetest woman, works in research and design of complex socio-technological systems for regeneration.
Hello folks. 😊
I have a shared server at Mayfirst.coop.
Is that enough to try a Bf installation or does it needs a virtual private server?
Thanks a lot...
Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?????
@jdp23
Well, kind of...
😅😆
@ivan @mayel
A few possibilities (starting from my total ignorance of the topic) to ignite the discussion:
- take the longest linear thread that the post is in and count it's position there and that whole thread number as length. Easy to do, not very close to reality, but a simple possible way to start.
- take the total number of replies that open from the original and use the timestamp of the current comment as the position. This ignores the bifurcations and uses time as linear count, it is more representative of the whole volume of the discussion and not really a position, but a reasonable approximation to the order of the posts.
What other algos can we think?
At present, our discussion page lacks any statistical data about the thread, a feature that is pretty common in most of social networks or forums. These platforms typically display a total count of replies, boosts, likes, and participants.
Take Discourse as an example, a platform with a great UX for productive conversations. Discourse displays the list of links shared in a post and provides a statistical box that details thread engagement. This includes also an approximation of the time required to read through the entire thread, if significant.
What are some meaningful statistics we must/should incorporate for the Bonfire 1.0 release? We are seeking to find statistics that can effectively foster engagement in discussions without solely promoting addictive behaviors. Any thoughts or suggestions ? #bonifre_feedback
@mayel @ivan
Quantity of comments is good and necessary and has already been discussed.
WDYT about including the "position" in the discussion?
It helps to understand the present comment/post in context.
This indicator has a simple structure: P/T where:
- P is position and
- T is total number of comments.
I know it's not that easy to count (do we count bifurcations and/or other open lines of discussion?) buy it gives some idea.
It is not the same to see "23 comments" that "comment 21 of 23" or "comment 4 of 23".
Ideas, critiques, hurrahs, anguished screams or other reactions to this? 😉
@ivan @mayel
This possiblity of a "visible only inside the instance" group may be quite useful for community work and coordination.
It will also put Bonfire in league with any channel based chat (CBC) but with a richer and more powerful feature set. 😉
Do you believe it may be a desirable use case? I can think of a few classic examples in our own case (an intentional semi rural community) and many others... 😁
Some updates about the development of federated #groups in bonfire:
indieweb.social/@bonfire/110...
Article: bonfirenetworks.org/posts/de...
(The federated group development has been made possible thanks to the #Nlnet Entrust grant)
Configurable side bar? I didn't even discover that feature yet! How does it work?
Sorry I wasn't clear... It still doesn't exist, it is only an idea that (ideally) could be useful. 😊
Alright. #Bonfire is definitively not ready for serious usage. The campground is super slow. However I think the potential is huge. I love the fine-grained control circles and boundaries seem to give you. Especially the circles will allow to seperate different interests better without the need for a dozen accounts. I'll keep watching.
I completely agree. With a configurable sidebar you have all the functionalities of a channel based chat (write to people, groups or channels or streams) integrated with the world too.
Very powerful indeed. 😊
