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@mayel Happy to lend a hand.
@Oceane That bug is now fixed (but please note that federation is currently disabled)
@mayel Happy to lend a hand.
@ivan Maybe show the number of flagged/reported posts?
Usually when I see many posts being flagged it's a sign of the thread going wildly off-topic or even attracting bad actors. I then stay away from that discussion. However, e.g. in Discourse I won't know until I have read through the posts. Having that metric on the top post would help me spend my time and engagement elsewhere.
Thinking of risks, maybe showing flag stats would attract more of the same? I would hope not in an otherwise functional community, but some people seem to gather around car crashes or houses on fire.
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Hi everyone!
Just checking out, looking around, kicking the tires... 👟🛞
Hmm gotcha, I'm not sure if I did or not. They were green toggles. I see the new interface now for the custom roles and I no longer see the built-in roles.
fyi we're planning a round of user design session with @dajb to fine tune the current custom permissions and roles UX/UI - as they're still confusing ( and they're one of bonfire core features )
At present, our discussion page lacks any statistical data about the thread, a feature that is pretty common in most of social networks or forums. These platforms typically display a total count of replies, boosts, likes, and participants.
Take Discourse as an example, a platform with a great UX for productive conversations. Discourse displays the list of links shared in a post and provides a statistical box that details thread engagement. This includes also an approximation of the time required to read through the entire thread, if significant.
What are some meaningful statistics we must/should incorporate for the Bonfire 1.0 release? We are seeking to find statistics that can effectively foster engagement in discussions without solely promoting addictive behaviors. Any thoughts or suggestions ? #bonifre_feedback
@ivan Maybe show the number of flagged/reported posts?
Usually when I see many posts being flagged it's a sign of the thread going wildly off-topic or even attracting bad actors. I then stay away from that discussion. However, e.g. in Discourse I won't know until I have read through the posts. Having that metric on the top post would help me spend my time and engagement elsewhere.
Thinking of risks, maybe showing flag stats would attract more of the same? I would hope not in an otherwise functional community, but some people seem to gather around car crashes or houses on fire.
@smitten Did you try actually toggling them? The UI might not be clear but they're read-only. We've only just deployed custom roles and the editable toggles there have a different design.
Hmm gotcha, I'm not sure if I did or not. They were green toggles. I see the new interface now for the custom roles and I no longer see the built-in roles.
@mayel Did that just recently change? When I posted this I was able to adjust those permissions, I had a screenshot of it.
@smitten Did you try actually toggling them? The UI might not be clear but they're read-only. We've only just deployed custom roles and the editable toggles there have a different design.
@mayel I can't delete this duplicated post.
@smitten just a correction: you cannot toggle the permissions on the default roles (interact, participate, etc) to customise them, you can only do so when you create custom roles.
@mayel Did that just recently change? When I posted this I was able to adjust those permissions, I had a screenshot of it.
Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?????
@jdp23
Well, kind of...
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@ivan @mayel
A few possibilities (starting from my total ignorance of the topic) to ignite the discussion:
- take the longest linear thread that the post is in and count it's position there and that whole thread number as length. Easy to do, not very close to reality, but a simple possible way to start.
- take the total number of replies that open from the original and use the timestamp of the current comment as the position. This ignores the bifurcations and uses time as linear count, it is more representative of the whole volume of the discussion and not really a position, but a reasonable approximation to the order of the posts.
What other algos can we think?
@ivan @mayel
This possiblity of a "visible only inside the instance" group may be quite useful for community work and coordination.
It will also put Bonfire in league with any channel based chat (CBC) but with a richer and more powerful feature set. 😉
Do you believe it may be a desirable use case? I can think of a few classic examples in our own case (an intentional semi rural community) and many others... 😁
@mayel @ivan
Quantity of comments is good and necessary and has already been discussed.
WDYT about including the "position" in the discussion?
It helps to understand the present comment/post in context.
This indicator has a simple structure: P/T where:
- P is position and
- T is total number of comments.
I know it's not that easy to count (do we count bifurcations and/or other open lines of discussion?) buy it gives some idea.
It is not the same to see "23 comments" that "comment 21 of 23" or "comment 4 of 23".
Ideas, critiques, hurrahs, anguished screams or other reactions to this? 😉